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#2: Thrown to the Wolves of Puberty

June 11th, 2015 · 108 minutes

John and Merlin discuss the origins of the show, including their contrasting approaches to authority, conformity, and contrariness.

Also, Merlin credits John with helping him become less horrible, and John deposes Merlin about military school.

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